Fall Convention 2015

Fall meeting/convention will be held at the Wintergreen Resort and Conference Center October 16 – 18, 2015.  This is located in Wisconsin Dells so there is plenty of things to do when not in meetings.  Rooms are $79.00 per night with choice of 2-queen beds or 1-king with sofa and whirlpool.  There is only 12 rooms blocked so please reserve soon so more rooms can be added if needed.  To reserve rooms call (800)-648-4765 press 1 and ask for  MW4WDA block.  I am not planning a dinner unless there is enough requests for one.  Contact Sam Vandenberg with any questions (920)-268-6869 or broncosam1618@yahoo.com.

2015 W4WDA Spring Convention meeting minutes

Thank you Jesse Thompson for taking notes.

Wisconsin Spring Convection 4-18-2015

Board Meeting

No changes to memos or notes

Board meeting called to order at 9:08

Board meeting closed at 9:11


Meet started at 9:15

Roll Call taken

Officers/Board present – Sam Vandenberg, Arnold Miller, Orlin Clark, Dave Bahr, Helen Wagner, Jesse Thompson, Luana Schneider.

Clubs present – Borderline 4×4 Trailseekers, Lone Riders 4×4, 4 Lakes 4-Wheelers, River City 4-Wheelers, Burr Oak Off-Road Machines, 4×4 Forever LTD., Green Bay High Riders LTD., Trailgators 4-Wheelers Inc., Twin City Bushwackers,

Secretary’s report –  Was accepted as printed. Still need someone to fill this position.

Treasures report – Was accepted as printed

One question on printing expenses came up – this was for membership cards – we received about 3000 cards that should last us for then several years.

Guests –  Karl Miller was present he is the president from a local ATV organization.  He is here to learn more about us and see how we can work together   Jacksoncountyatv.org is his club site – the local trails here are wide enough for UTV with about a 60” width mark.  They have been working with the county to make the trails even wider.  Noted that trail width is actually up to the local county.  Most areas have been opened up to 60”

Pipeline – Opens up on June 1st – most of it’s closed at this point

Webpage – Noted that Jesse will look wi4wda.org and check to see if we can purchase it.  If you want anything posted on the site – send it to Amanda C.

STC –  next meeting is April 27th in Fitchburg on 3911 fish hatcher road

It was noted in the budget that “all roads” must be classified.  Whether it is off-road, trail, or road. Currently they need to classify the type of roads.  It was mentioned by Luana that the DNR has termed the type of trail/road that we want to ride on as “Nature Based”.  This classification is all being done by the DNR with no input from other areas.  The Park and Recreation group was unaware that this road classification action was happening

MW4WDA – No claims have been filed this year – the insurance dues did go up about $300 this year.

WOHVA – Will be hosting the GNT and Jeep Jamboree rides – also looking at an event for wounded worriers – this is 4 wheel to heal This event will be held the 1st of August.  John Lewins has been nominated as the CEO of WohVA.

Joel noted that they need volunteers as well have veterans to attend the event. The cost will be $50 and this includes lunch and dinner.  It was noted that some people will need rides and others will bring their own.  To do the ride along will require a spill kit.  This is a one-day event.

A motion was made to provide up to $600 dollars towards the efforts of this event.  This motion was passed – the money will need final approval from the board.

Volunteers would not need to pay a fee as long they do not ride on the trails.  This event is not open to the public – it is for the veterans – our participation will be to provide them with rides.

There will be pre-registration for the event and most likely close down in mid-July.

Membership – No new clubs or news at this time

LSAR – There will be a meeting in July to determine who it will be dissolved and where the funds will be disburse.  W4WDA has request some of the funds be allotted to us.  The tax status with LSAR may impact the way this distribution can be handled.  They are a 501c3 and it sounds like the funds can only be transferred to another 501c3 organization

Sauk Prairie – April 11th the roads will be open for travel. There also a lot of turmoil around the use of this land – several organization would like this to be none motorized and on the other side many organizations want trails. It was noted that there is some sections in the area that are suitable for moderate trail use for your average 4 wheel drive vehicle.

MRA – No new news at this time.

Region Reports

Region A:  Discussed the phone conference from last month and that we’ll use it going forward

Region B: Nothing significant to report

Region C: Nothing new to report – Contact Hellen if you need to call a Region C Meeting

Old Business

Fall meeting/convention will be held at the Wintergreen Resort and Conference Center October 16 – 18, 2015.  This is located in Wisconsin Dells so there is plenty of things to do when not in meetings.  Rooms are $79.00 per night with choice of 2-queen beds or 1-king with sofa and whirlpool.  There is only 12 rooms blocked so please reserve soon so more rooms can be added if needed.  To reserve rooms call (800)-648-4765 press 1 and ask for  MW4WDA block.  I am not planning a dinner unless there is enough requests for one.  Contact Sam Vandenberg with any questions (920)-268-6869 or broncosam1618@yahoo.com.

Winter meeting is January 9th at the Waupaca hidden waters golf resort.

Trail specifications – Luana – gave overview of what we would like for trails.  We are being asked to provide more bullet points of what we need.  It is difficult to explain to non-trail riding folks on what type of trails we like to wheel on.


John Schnorr called into the meeting at 10:42

Jon Schnorr will be giving an overview

Forest County continues to make progress at a snail’s pace.  The informed decisions process has taking a long time.  This has been dragging on since December.  There has been some interest by some private individuals to help with the park.  John discussed some other options that will be looked at to keep this project moving.  There are also other areas in Wisconsin that are being looked at. Currently working with the county governments’.  The other counties are interested and they are currently working to develop relationships with the townships.  The potential for success in these other areas is much greater in these areas, however this would be less acreage than the planned 10000 acres.  It was discussed that there was an allocation in the state budget for funding by the government, however forest county did not take advantage of this.  Today the land generates about $10 an acre.  The park would make this jump up to about $138 an acre.  This is across all forest land, not just the park land.

Sticker Program – The legislation for the sticker program is dead.  This would not to basically start all over again.  There was also not enough support for it.  It does not sound like anyone will be picking this backup up.

New Business

Luanna reviewed the news spot for the usage of trails.  This included horses on the trails and winching activities.  This ride consisted of 6 vehicles and a news report filming the event.  The news spot is out on the YouTube if you want to watch it

Update on Huston MN off road park – Orlin

The park is progressing at a good pace at this point.  They have had a few issues along the way but have able to work past them.  Everything is still in progress and have local support.  They continue to buy more land.  It is approaching about 700 acres at this time.

Spring Convention 2016 will be held at the Ramada Grand Seasons Hotel in Waupaca April 15-17, 2016. 4×4 Forever will be hosting the 2016 Spring Convention – Jesse handed out flyers to “save the date.”  It was discussed that there is interest in doing this convention together with WHOVA.  John Lewins has been contacted and will be bringing it up to the WOHVA board next month. More details to come as discussions are had.

Was noted to have Mary provide and updated membership list so we can update the e-mail lists.

Talked about engaging Crandon to see if we can possibly hold some sort of event at the raceway since they now have additional trails and a rock crawling section.  I can look out to see if Chris, Brian, or John to see if they have any contacts or information around this.


It was brought up that people need to register for stuff earlier so there is no last minute issues with attendance at events.

Fall Elections

Region A Vice President:  Arnold Miller -yes

Region B Assistant Vice President: Dave Bahr – yes

Region C Vice President:  Helen Wagner – yes

Secretary – still vacant

Meeting adjourned at 11:31 a.m

Details W4WDA and MW4WDA Spring Convention

2015 Spring Convention Print PDF

2015 Spring Convention

April 17-19, 2015 Black River Falls, WI

Best Western Arrowhead Lodge
600 Oasis Road (54615)
Reserve by April 1-special room rates (use code WI4WD):
One queen bed room-Occupancy-Single/double-$67.49/Triple-$77.49
Double queen room: Occupancy-Single/double-$69.99/Triple-$79.99/Quad-$89.99



Friday night reception and registration 7pm. Hosting club- Four Lakes Four Wheelers

9:00 am – 9:15 am             W4WDA BOD meeting
9:15 am – 12:00 pm         W4WDA General Membership meeting
12:00 pm – 1:30 pm         Lunch – On your own
1:30 pm – 4:30 pm             Seminars, Women and Children Activities (more details to follow soon)
6:00pm                                Cocktails
7:00pm                                 Dinner with Program (door prizes/raffles)

9:00-11:00am                     MW4WDA Meeting

Saturday Buffet Dinner Menu

Adults- $20.00 per person
Roast Beef and Baked Chicken
Scalloped Potatoes & Vegetable Medley
Tossed Salad & Dinner Roll
Coffee and Iced Tea or Lemonade
Children ($9.00) – Macaroni and Cheese, French Fries with Chicken Tenders


Please send payment to W4WDA by April 7, 2015 for meeting and dinner reservation to Mary Hoernke at 203 Guenwald Ave., Neenah, WI 54956-2040.

Name__________________________________________ # of adult dinner_____($20/PP)


Club Name______________________________________ # of child dinner______($9/PC)


Registration fee is $5.00 per family.     Total Due______________

Roadside 4 Wheelers Tough Truck 2015

Click here for Flyer:  Tough Truck 2015 Mazo Draft 1


Tough Truck 2015

Mazomanie Wild West Days

Saturday Sept. 12th Racing 3:00 pm, Tech Inspection Noon-2:30

THREE CLASSES 2×4, 4×4, OPEN  100% payback, Open Class $500 1st prize.

Contact Numbers

John Gee                       608-767-4080

Brody MacLean            608-527-2238

2015 Winter Meeting Minutes


Jan 10, 2015


Review and revised agenda as needed.


President Sam Vandenberg called the meeting to order at 9:26am.  Mission statement was read.

Roll call – Attendance sheet was passed around.  Board members: Sam Vandenberg, Mary Hoernke, Orlin Clark, Arnie Miller, Helen Wagner, Luana Schneider, Jesse Thompson & 8 Clubs present.

Secretary’s Report – Motion to approve the secretary’s report as printed and distributed made by Mark White, 2nd by Chris Hannis Motion Carried.

Treasurer’s Report  – Discussion was had regarding paying of UFWDA dues when dues on-behalf of W4WDA are due.  Motion to pay/renew UFWDA Dues when membership due made by Orlin Clark, 2nd by Helen Wagner.  Motion Carried.   Discussion Regarding Filling the Secretary’s UFWDA membership with another member who could represent W4WDA at UFWDA meetings, Orlin Clark nominated Telle from Weekend 4Wheelers, no other names were brought forward, Mary Hoernke will add Telle to the list of memberships for UEWDA.  Discussion regarding emailing/mailing out Treasurer’s report to members attending via teleconference prior to the meeting.  Mary will email/mail out report prior to meetings to those she knows will be attending via teleconference.  Motion to approve the Treasurer’s report as printed and distributed made by Amanda Cottrell, 2nd by Orlin Clark.  Motion Carried.  She will also send an electronic copy to the officers so they can send out even the day of the meeting.

Committee Reports: 

Pipeline –   No new information at this time.

Website – Chris Hannis asked if W4WDA would like him to contact the previous owner of the web address for W4WDA (WI4WDA.org).  Motion to spend up to $200 to pay the previous owner for the website, made by Mark White, 2nd by Mary Hoernke, motion passed.  Discussion regarding the BOD list, Membership & Club list missing from the webpage.  Amanda Cottrell added the BOD list and membership information back to the menu bar prior to the end of the meeting.  Mary Hoernke will get a Club membership to Amanda once the 2015 Club dues are paid.  Send any information to Amanda Cottrell and she will update website.

Bylaws/SOP – Nothing to report at this time.

SCORP – Nothing new to report at this time.

STC – The November meeting was held in Lapham Peak.  Of particular interest was the fact that in the budget bill there was a charge that all State roads in State Parks and Forests be identified, classified and mapped.  Something we need to watch closely.  For further info on that meeting go to the State Trails Council website at dnr.wi.gov/topic/parks/stc /

UFWDA – New President was elected, Tom Mandra.  Currently the Treasurer’s seat is vacant, however Bob Devore is filling in until a new person is elected.  UFWDA will continue to hold 4 meetings/year and they will continue with Webinars for their meetings in 2015.  The next meeting is January 13.

WOHVA – Great Northern Trail ride, August 13, 14, 15th. Early registration is open now on WOHVA.com.

MW4WDA – Nothing new to report.

WORVPI – More support is being seen from the local population.  This project continues to be a work in progress and currently is Status Quo.

Membership – Nothing new to report.

Lake States Resource Alliance (LSRA) – Helen Wagner reported that LSRA is on schedule to dissolve in July 2015.  Helen has requested the process by which organizations can ask for LSRA funds to be distributed, with no response.  She will draft letters on behalf of W4WDA & UFWDA and send them to LSRA requesting donations be made to them.

Motorized Recreation Area – Nothing new

RTP –Request for funds need to be applied for by May 1

Rally – Jesse Thompson has been working with John Lewins on a possibility of having a rally type event at the Mole lake property.  Joel Kasper reported that Mole Lake is looking to hold more events on their property and they are willing to work with other groups to make that happen.  Joel has also been working with John Lewins and we have the opportunity to have an event that will help Veterans get off road.  The organization is called 4Wheel to Heal.  This event was presented to WOHVA as well and there is interest to co-sponsor the event.  Event insurance would be needed for this event.  Orlin Clark made a motion to have W4WDA purchase the event insurance for a co-sponsored event with a projected cost of no more than $250 per day, 2nd by Mark White, motion carried.   No date is set yet however it would be sometime at the end of July/beginning of August.

Region A report – Arnie Miller discussed the Toy for tot’s event held at the farm.  96 Trucks & 28 ATV’s/UTV’s were in attendance.

Region B report – Orlin Clark discussed Houston, MN off road park.  More land was bought for the park, they currently are planning on approximately 700 ac.  There will be work weekends coming up this summer, with possible camping availability.  Contact Orlin for more information.

Region C report – Helen Wagner had nothing new to report.

Old Business:

  1. Conference Calling- Luana Schneider has found a no cost conference call that can be used for the meetings.  No Cost conference calling and Skype were tested at this meeting with Arnie & Bev Miller. It worked well, although it would be nice to figure out how to get things up on a bigger screen and/or louder through a speaker.  Arnie & Bev will check out speakers.
  2. Winter Meeting 2016 – looking for volunteers to host the winter meeting.  With no new volunteers stepped forward it was decided to have the 2016 meeting at  Hidden Waters Resort in Waupaca January 9, 2016


New Business:

  1. Fall meeting 2015 location?  Black River Falls?  No decisions made on this at this time.
  2. Spring Meeting April 2016 location/host club volunteer – 4×4 Forever is considering hosting the 2016 meeting.  More news to follow at upcoming meetings.

Fall 2014 Elections

Region A Vice President – Arnie Miller is re running.

Region B Assistant Vice President – Dave Bahr is re running.

Secretary – Not filled need nominations!

Region C Vice President – Helen Wagner is re running.

2015 Spring Convention is April 17-19th at the Best Western Arrowhead Lodge, Black River Falls WI.  Host is 4 Lakes 4 Wheelers. Luana Schneider is requesting ideas for presenters be sent to her.

Motion to adjourn the meeting made by Amanda Cottrell, 2nd by Mary Hoernke.  Motion Carried.  Meeting adjourned 12:12pm.

Respectfully Submitted by Amanda Cottrell, Filling in for Secretary & Sam Vandenberg, President.

01102015 W4WDA Minutes

Minutes from Fall 2014 Meeting

Fall 2014 W4WDA minutes



October 11, 2014

Black River Falls, WI


Review and revised agenda as needed.



President Sam Vandenberg called the meeting to order at 8:53 am.

Roll call was held.

Secretary’s Report was approved with correction.

Treasurer’s Report  none was available.

Committee Reports;

Pipeline- none

Website- Send any information to Amanda Cottrell and she will update website.

Bylaws/SOP- Nothing to report.

SCORP-Nothing new.

STC- The next meeting is November 13.  At the meeting in July there was a presentation from the hiking and snowmobile representatives.

UFWDA- Luana participated in a conference call meeting in early October and has a power point program that UFWDA put together. UFWDA is having issues with continuing the insurance program. The website has been down as there are some issues with it. The fiscal year will finish in the black. There is a new membership director and business manager. This is helping to free up some time for the President and Vice President as they have been doing most of the work.

MW4WDA- All 4 wheel drive clubs that belong to MW4WDA, with a 100% of their members sign up, are  aware that their trail ride/events are covered under the insurance policy that MW4WDA pays for. This is a very valuable asset to have available to local clubs. Currently membership per person is $10.00.

WOHVA- given by Sam Vandenberg. There was a golf outing last weekend that WOHVA sponsored. He attended the general meeting. The Great Northern Trail Ride is growing more popular. There was discussion about WOHVA’s spill kit and the rule that each vehicle must carry one. WOHVA is setting up a chain saw training course for January or February which will be posted on their website. Currently there are 150 members in WOHVA.

Membership—nothing new.

Lake States Resource Alliance (LSRA)—Helen Wagner reported that this organization may dissolve in July 2015 if no one steps forward to fill the offices of President and other empty positions. The precedure to dissolve is left to the Board of Directors and not the membership of LSRA. Helen is going to do some checking into the bylaws and check on the process of dissolution. There are many restrictions on the logging industry and lots of hoops for them to jump through. OHV users may lose out if this connection to the timber industry is lost.

Motorized Recreation Area- Luana Schneider reported that Wisconsin is still looking for property closer to urban areas for an off road park.  Near Menominee there are thousands of acres on the Wisconsin/Michigan border with OHV access. The middle section has official trails for four wheel drive vehicles, Luana was not sure how these trails were marked. You may view maps on the DNR website. Meanwhile in the Rome, WI area, the easement with Plum Creek will hopefully include 4WD vehicles.

Rally-  Jesse Thompson reported on the online survey that took place late last year. He suggested that W4WDA host a guided trail ride like the Great Northern Trail Ride. He has talked with John L. about the possibility of using the Mole Lake area. For the first year only inviting members of W4WDA and perhaps MW4WDA. John L. would like a date to bring forth to the tribal council to be approved.  There was discussion on the width of the trails, insurance coverage and prizes/door prizes. A motion was passed to move forward with this event. If you would like to volunteer for this contact Jesse Thompson.

WORVPI- reported by Sam Vandenberg. Apparently there was a misunderstanding with the Forest county board and when the grants would need to be paid back. These grants apparently do not need to be paid back until the area is logged which may not be for another 50 years. Forest county will need to visit their land use plan and make changes to allow WORVPI to happen. There was discussion on the area to be used for the park.

AB369- reported on by Luana. There is a need for more Senators to sponsor this bill in the senate. If anyone has connections with the Senate please contact John Schnorr on the WORVPI website.

Region A report by Arnold and Beverly Miller, October 25th will be Toys For Tots at a private location in Minnesota. $40/truck and $5/passenger. Contact Arnold by email for details.

Region B has no report.

Region C has no report.

New Business

-In an effort to spread the W4WDA meeting area, there will be a request from a different region to host the Winter Meeting in 2016.

-WORVPI’s Memo of Understanding was voted on and passed to sign agreement.

-The Wisconsin Department of Resources will have a presentation at the State Trails Council on the process of mapping and planning motorized access.

-It was decided  John L. would be contacted for group access to the Mole Lake property for trail riding.



President- Sam Vandenberg

Secretary-open, need volunteer.

Treasurer- Mary Hoernke

Region A,  Assistant VP- Nate Odman

Region B VP- Orlin Clark

Region C,  Assistant VP- Jesse Thompson

Adjourned  12;23pm.

The Winter Meeting will be  9:00am, January 10, 2014 at Hidden Waters in Waupaca with a potluck lunch.

Respectfully Submitted by Cindy Bahr, Secretary